“There is an uncanniness, a way in which [fungi] were not behaving perfectly, in which it’s hard to study them in a petri dish… They upset that wish that everything would fall into binaries and categories that have made sense.” – Maria Pinto
This episode features Maria Pinto, an author and educator who teaches for the literary nonprofit GrubStreet. Her book of lyric essays about mushrooms, Fearless, Sleepless, Deathless: What Fungi Taught Me about Nourishment, Poison, Ecology, Hidden Histories, Zombies, and Black Survival, was published by Great Circle Books at UNC Press.
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Episode artwork: Paul Lewin

Song features: “If You Want To, You Will” by Lemon Myrtle